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Lord Sidious 2006-02-17 16:45:00

Lord Sidious

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Skąd: Wrocław

Czyli problem języków w SW. Choć mają one prawie 30 lat, jestesmy w stanie wypowiedzieć pewne kwestie po huttańsku, ewocku itp. to jednak przez ten czas nie stworzono spójnego sztucznego języka dla sagi. Tu oczywiście prym wiedzie mistrz Tolkien, który stworzył nie tylko język elfów, ale także jego różne narzecza. W konurencyjnym wszechświecie - Star Treku, klingoński ma nie tylko swoją gramatykę i słowniki, ale też podręczniki do nauki tego języka, a wielu fanów zna go w jakimś stopniu.

W SW mogliśmy uczyć się kwesti w huttse np. "Ono gotta Sola?" czy "Tuta mishka Jabba du Hutt?". Ale nie dało się z tego stworzyć języka którym można by się swobodnie komunikować. To była podróbka, a nie odpowiednik esperanto.

Pewna autorka, Karen Traviss, wielka fanka Mandalorian, która zrobiła wszystko by jak najbardziej rozwinąć ich kulturę cierpiała z powodu, że Mandalorianie nie mają własnego języka. Tak cierpiała, że zamiast wziąć sie do roboty za Legacy stworzyła od początku do końca język Mandalorian, z gramatyką i słownictwem. Jak twierdzi za jakiś czas powinien się pojawić słownik on-line na jej stronie.

Mando`a, bo tak nazywa się język można posłuchać tutaj:
http://www.karentraviss.com/

Ni ven jorhaa`i Mando`a

A na koniec słownik i przewodnik gramatyczny

MANDO`A PRONUNCIATION ENGLISH
a, a`, al Ah but (often al before a vowel)
aaray AH-ray pain
aay`han AY-ye-haan bittersweet perfect moment of mourning and joy - ""remembering
and celebrating""
abesh AH-besh east
abiik AH-beek air
ad ahd son
ad ahd daughter
adade ah-DAH-day personnel
adate ah-DAH-tay people, persons
ade AH-day children, sons, daughters
a`den AH-den wrath, rage
adenn ah-DEN merciless
ad`eta ahd-AY-tah twenty
adiik AH-deek child aged 3 to 13
adol AH-dohl through
aikiyc ai-KEESH desperate
aka AH-kah mission
akaan ah-KAHN war
akaan`ade AH-kahn-AH-day army
akaanir ah-KAH-neer fight
akaata ah-KAH-ta battalion
akalenedat ah-KAH-leh-NAY-dat hard contact
akay, `kay ah-KAY until, `til
alii`gai ah-LEE-gai flag, colors
aliik ah-LEEK sigil, symbol on armor
aliit ah-LEET clan name, identity
aliit (clan) ah-LEET family
Aliit ori`shya tal`din Ah-LEET-or-EESH-yah-tal-DEEN Family is more than blood. (Saying.)
Alor ah-LOR Chancellor
alor ah-LOR leader, chief, "officer", constable
alor`ad al-OHR-ahd captain
alorir ah-LOR-eer lead
aloriya alor-EE-yah capital (lit. head city)
alor`uus AH-lor-OOS corporal
al`verde AHL-vair-day commander
am ahm change
an ahn all
ani AH-nee total, complete
aran AH-ran guard

araniik ah-RAHN-eek cordon
ara`novor AH-rah-NO-vor obstruct, defend, bockade
ara`novor ah-RAH-nov approach, stand in the way off, block
arasuum ah-RAH-soom stagnation,
arasuumir ah-rah-soo-MEER stagnate, remain the same
arasuum`la ah-ra-SOOM-lah unchanging, stagnant
arpat AR-pat seed
aru`e ah-ROO-ay enemy (noun)
aru`ela AH-roo-AY-la hostile, enemy (adj)
aruetii ah-roo-AY-tee traitor, foreigner, outsider
aruetiise ah-roo-ay-TEE-say traitors, foreigners, outsiders
aruetyc AH-roo-eh-TEESH traitorous
ash`ad AH-shad someone else
ashi AH-shee other
ast ast itself
ast`ehut ast-teh-HUUT fat
at aht towards, at (motion), to
at aht to (direction, movement)
atin ah-TEEN stubborn, tenacious, capable of endurance
atiniir ah-teen-EER endure, to put up with, to ""take it""
atin`la ah-TEEN-la tough
baar BAR-oor body
baar`ur BAR-oor medic
baatir BAH-teer care, worry about
ba`balut BAH-bal-oot on patrol
ba`buir BA-boo-EER grandfather
ba`buir BA-boo-EER grandmother
bah bah to (dative)
ba`jurir bah-jur-EER raise children
ba`jurir bah-jur-EER educate
bal bahl and
balac bah-LAHK opportunity
bal`ban bal-BAHN indeed, definitely - emphatic
banar bah-NAR happen
bantov BAHN-tov nevertheless
barycir bah-REE-shir deploy
ba`slanar BAH-slah-NAR leave, depart, exit
bat baht on
batnor BAHT-nor drunk (lit. on your back)
ba`vodu BAH-vod-oo uncle (plural bavodu`e)
ba`vodu BAH-vod-oo aunt (plural bavodu`e)

ba`yair bah-yah-EER chew
be beh of
be, b` beh possessive prefix or suffix with proper nouns, e.g. be`jetii or (rare)
jetiib - the Jedi`s. Possessives are sometimes indicated simply by
the proper noun preceding the word, e.g.Boba`kad - Boba`s saber .
be`chaaj beh-CHAHJ away, afar
behot beh-HOHT herb used in beverages, mildly antiseptic and stimulating
beroya bair-OY-ah bounty hunter
bes`bavar BES-beh-var cavalry
besbe BES-bay kit (slang)
besbe`trayce BES-beh-TRAYSH-ay weapons
be`senaar BEH-sen-AHR missile
beskar BESK-gar Mandalorian iron
beskar`ad BES-kar-AHD droid
beskar`gam BES-kar-GAM armor
beskaryc BES-kar-EESH armored
bes`laar bez-LAHR music
be`sol beh-SOHL priority
bes`uliik BES-oo-LEEK basilisk war droid
beten BEY-tehn sigh
betenor bey-TEHN-or sigh, to
beviin BEH-veen lance
bevik BEH-veek stick
bic beek it (very generic use of it)
bikadinir bee-KAD-een-eer stab (with a broad blade), to
bines BEE-nays stack (noun)
binesor BEEN-ay-sor stack (verb)
bintar BEEN-tar both
birgaan beer-gahn backpack (bergen)
birov bee-ROHV many
bora BOH-ra job
borarir boh-RAH-reer work (verb)
brii`briik bree-BREEK grid
briik breek line
briikarir BREE-kar-EER defilade (verb)
briikase bree-KAH-say happy
Briikase gote`tuur! Bree-KAH-say go-te-TOOR Happy birthday!
brokar BROH-kar beat, to
bu`ad boo-AHD grandchild
buir boo-EER mother

buir boo-EER father
buirkan boo-EER-kan responsibility
bui`tsad BOO-eet-sahd family lineage (biological - rarely used)
burc`ya BOOR-sha friend (also used ironically)
Burc`ya vaal burk`yc, burc`ya veman BOOR-sha vahl BOOT-keesh, BOOR-shah
veh-MAHN
A friend in need... Lit. a friend during danger is a true friend
burk`yc BOOR-keesh dangerous
buruk BOO-rook danger
burun BOO-roon weather
buurenaar boo-REY-nahr storm
buyacir boo-ya-SHEER recognize
buy`ce BOO-chay, BOO-shay helmet
buy`ce gal BOO_chay-GAL pint of ale - contents of helmet, actually a lot more than a pint!
ca kah night
ca`nara KAH-nah-RAH time
carud kah-ROOD smoke
ca`tra KAH-tra night sky
cerar sair-ARR mountain
ceratir sair-AH-teer point (verb)
ceryc sair-EESH pointed
cetar set-ARR kneel in submission (from boot - as in licking someone`s boots)
cetare set-ARE-ay boots
chaab chahb fear
chaabar chah-BAR fear, be afraid of
chaaj chahj range
chaaj chahj distance
chaaj`yc chahj-EESH far
chakaar chah-KAR corpse robber, thief, petty criminal - general term of abuse
chakur CHAH-koor steal, rob
chekar CHECK-ar stab (with a small blade), to
chortav chor-TAV street
choruk CHOHR-ook stone
chur choor under
cin seen white
cin`ciri seen-SEE-ree snow
ciryc seer-EESH cold
Copaani mirshmure`cye, vod? Koh-PAH-nee MEERSH-moo-RAY-shay,
vod?
Are you looking for a smack in the face, mate?
copaanir KOH-pan-EER want, to
copad KOH-pad ambition

copad KOH-pad desire
Coruscanta KOH-roo-SAHN-ta Coruscant
cuir COO-eer four
cur`eta COOR-ay-tah forty
cuun koon our
Cuy ogir`olar COO-ee oh-GEER-oh-LAR It`s neither here nor there. "It`s irrelevant."
cuyan koo-YAHN survivor
cuyir KOO-yeer exist, be
cyare SHAH-ray beloved, loved, popular
cyare`se shar-AY-say loved ones
cyar`ika shar-EE-kah darling, sweetheart
daab dahb down (direction)
dadita dah-DEE-tah code used by Mandalorians, like Morse
dajun dah-JOON plan
dajunar dah-JOO-nahr plan, to plot
dajun`la dah-JOON-lah planned
dala DAH-lah woman
dalab dah-LAHB scabbard, sheath
dalyc DAH-leesh female
dar dahr no longer
dar dahr gone, temporary
darasuum da-RAH-soom eternal
dar`buir DAR-boo-EER no longer a parent (legal term - parental divorce by child)
darjetii dar-JAY-tee Sith
dar`manda dar-MAHN-da a state of not being Mandalorian - not an outsider, but one who has
lost his heritage, and so his identity and his soul - regarded with
absolute dread by most traditionall-minded Mando`ade
dar`tome dar-TOH-may separated, apart (of people)
daryc DAR-eesh brown
davaab dah-VAHB execution, carrying out
de deh by
debaan DEB-ahn declination
dha dah dark
dha`haase dah-HAH-say screen
dha`werd (archaic) DA-waird stealth
digur dee-GOOR forget
di`kut DEE-koot idiot, useless individual, waste of space (lit. someone who forgets
to put their pants on)
di`kutla dee-KOOT-lah useless, stupid, worthless
dinii DEE-nee lunatic

dini`la dee-NEE-lah insane
dinui dee-NOO-ee gift
dinuir DEE-noo-EER give, to
diryc DEER-eesh low
dola DOH-lah throughout, pervading, soaked
dos dohs across
doslanir do-SLAH-neer cross, intersect
draar drahr never
dral draal strong, powerful
dral draal bright, glowing
dralshy`a drahl-SHEE-ya stronger, brighter
drashaar DRAH-shar grow, to
droten DROH-ten people
duraan DOO-rahn hold in contempt, look down upon
Duraani, burc`ya? Doo-RAH-nee, BOOR-shah? You looking at me funny, pal?
duraanir doo-RAHN-eer scorn, hold in contempt
dush doosh bad
dushne DOOSH-nay worst
dush`shya doo-SHEESH-ya worse
duumir DOOM-eer allow, to
ebin ay-BEEN either
echoy eh-CHOY search, mourning
echoy`la eh-CHOY-lah searching, mourning, lost
echoylir eh-choy-LEER grieve, search, mourn, to
edee ee-DEE teeth
edee ee-DEE jaws
edeemir ee-DEE-meer bite
eesu ee-SOO gas
ehn ayhn three
ehn`eta AYN-ay-tah thirty
ekur eck-OOR choke
elek EL-eck yes (shortened to `lek as ""yeah"")
emuurir eh-MOOR-eer like, enjoy
enaabe ay-NAH-bay meters
enteyor EN-tay-OHR must, be obliged to
entye ENT-yeh debt
epar ay-PAR eat
eparavur eh-PAH-rav-oor feast, devour, to
eparavur takisit ay-PAH-rav-oor ta-KEE-sit apologise
epar`yaim eh-Par-yay-EEM restaurant, canteen
eso AY-so flank

eso AY-so side
e`tad EH-tad seven
etyc ETT-eesh dirty, filthy, grimy
evaar EE-var youth, newness
evaar`la ee-VAR-la young, new
eyayah ee-YAY-ah echo
eyaytir ah-YAY-teer flee, escape
eyn ayn an (indefinite article - rare)
gaan gahn hand
gaan`au GAH-now laser pointer
gaanaylir gahn-AY-leer trap, catch
gaanure gah-NOO-ray hand tools
gaanynir gah-NEE-neer punch, to
Gaa`tayl! Gah-TILE Help!
gaa`taylir gah-TAY-leer help
gadi GAH-dee wrist
gaht gaht north
gaht`yc GAH-teesh polar
gai guy name, title
gai bal manda GUY bal MAN-da adoption ceremony, lit. name and soul
gaigotalur gai-GOH-tal-oor designate
gal gahl ale, alcohol (""booze"")
galar gah-LAR spill, pour
gal`gala GAL-gal-arr Let me buy you a drink! Have a drink!
ganar GAN-ar possess, have
gar gahr your
gar gahr you (sing. and pl.)
Gar serim Gar sair-EEM ""Yes, you’re right."" ""That`s it.""
gayiyla guy-EE-lah everywhere
gayiylir guy-EE-leer spread
ge geh almost (before consonant)
ge`catra geh-CAT-rah evening
gedeteyar geh-det-AY-ar be thankful
gedetir geh-DET-eer plead, beg
Gedet`ye Geh-DET-yay Please
gehat`ik GE`hah-teek story
gehatyc geh-HAHT-eesh suspected, believed to be, alleged
ge`hutuun ge-hoo-TOON bandit, villain, petty thief - can also mean a serious criminal you
ge`kaan gey-KAHN military exercise
gekyrdir geh-KEER-deer incapacitate, knock out
gemas gey-MAHS hair

genet geh-NET gray
ge`sol geh-SOHL half
ge`solehtar ge-soh-LAY-tar estimate
get get almost (before a vowel)
ge`tal ge-TAHL red
gett`se GET-say nuts (generic)
Gev! gehv Stop it! Pack it in!
gihaal gee-HAAL dried fish-meal (like pemmican - lasts for years but very pungent
smell)
go`naasir goh-NAH-seer waste, squander
goorar GOOR-ahr throw
goore GOO-ray grenade
goor`verd GOOR-vaird grenadier
goran goh-RAHN blacksmith, metalworker
gota GOH-tah machine (any device)
gotal`ur GO-tal-oor make, create
gota`tuur GOH-tah-TOOR birthday
goten GOH-ten birth
gotenir goh-TEN-eer give birth
goyust goh-YOOST road
gratiir grah-TEER punish, to
gra`tua gra-TOO-ah vengeance
gra`tuar grah-TOO-ar avenge
haal hahl breath
haalas hahlas chest
haalur hah-LOOR breathe
haar har the - definite article - rare and emphatic
haaranovor ha-RAHN-oh-vor hide
Haar`chak! HAR-chak Damn it!
haat haht truth
Haat, ijaa, haa`it Haht-i-JAH-hah-EET Truth, honor, vision - words used to seal a pact.
haa`taylir har-TIE-leer see
Haili cetare! HI-lee set-AHR-ay Tuck in! Enjoy! Lit. ""Fill your boots.""
hailir hay-LEER fill (verb)
haranov hah-RAHN-ov cache
hettir HAYt-eer burn
hettyc heh-TEESH burning
hibir hee-BEER take
hibirar baj-hib-EER learn
hodar HOH-dar deceive, fool
hodasal hoh-dah-SAHL camouflage

hodasalar hoh-DAH-sah-LAHR camouflage, cover up
hodayc HOH-daysh cunning
hokaanir ho-KAHN-eer cut, slice
hokan`yc hoh-KAH-neesh sliced, cut up (also slang for heavily defeated)
hukaatir HOO-kah-TEER cover, to
Hukaat`kama! hu-KAHT-ka-MAH Watch my six!""
hut`uun hoo-TOON coward (worst possible insult)
Iba` EE-ba what a...
ibac ee-BAK that (as in this and that)
Ibac`ner EW-bak-NAIR That`s mine, it`s mine.
ibic ee-BIK this
ibi`tuur EE-bee-toor today
Ib`tuur jatne tuur ash`ad kyr`amur EE-bee toor JAHT-nay toor ASH-ahd-KEEram-
oor
Today is a good day for someone else to die - Mando saying
ijaat ee-JAHT honor
ika EE-kah diminutive suffix written as `ika - also added to a name as a very
familiar or childhood form, e.g, Ord`ika - Little Ordo
ik`aad EE-kad baby, child under 3
irud EE-rood arm
iviin ee-VEEN speed, velocity
iviin`yc ee-VEEN-esh fast
jag jag man
jagyc JAH-geesh male
jahaala ja-HAH-lah well, healthy
jahaatir jeh-HAH-teer tell lies, deceive
ja`hailir jah-HIE-leer observe, watch over
jai`galaar JAI-gah-LAR shriek-hawk
jair jay-EER scream, shriek
jaon JAY-ohn over
jaon`yc jai-OHN-ish important
jari`eyc JAR-ee-aysh ugly
jate JAH-tay good
jate`shya JAH-tay-SHEE-ah better
jatne JAT-nay best
jatne emuurir JAT-nay eh-MOOR-eer prefer
jatne manda JAT-nay MAN-da good mood - a complex sense of being at one with your clan and life
Jatne vod JAT-nay vod Sir ( formal - used by bar staff etc, not military)
jehaat jeh-HAHT lie, untruth
jehavey`ir jeh-HAHR-vay`eer ambush
jekai jeh-KAI bait

jenarar JEH-han-rar feint
jetii JAY-tee Jedi
jetii`kad jay-TEE-kahd lightsaber
jetiise JAY-tee-see Jedi plural, Republic
jii gee now
jiriad gee-REE-ad white, chalky, ashen-faced
jorcu JOR-koo because
jorhaa`ir joh-har-EER speak, talk
jorir JAW-reer bear, carry
jor`lekir jor-LEK-eer confirm
jorso`ran Jor-so-RAHN shall bear (archaic)
joruur jaw-ROOR gather
juaan JOO-ahn beside, next to
jurkad JOOR-kad attack, an assault
jurkadir JOOR-kad-EER attack, threaten, mess with
jurkadir sha(l) JOOR-kad-EER shahl mess with, mess around, hassle (alternative form of jurkadir)
transitive verb
jurkadir ti JOOR-kad-EER tee mess someone about, mess around with someone, mess with
(another alternative of jurkadir) transitive verb
kaab kahb sound
kad kahd saber, sword
kadala kah-DAH-lah wounded, hurt
kadale kah-DAH-lay casualties
kad`au kahd-OW lightsaber
kadiilir kah-DEE-leer breach, pierce
kad`la KAD-la sharp
ka`gaht KAH-gaht south
kai`tome kai-TOHM-ay food
kajil KAH-jeel flat, level
kakovidir kah-KOH-vee-deer cower
kal kahl blade
kalikir kah-LEE-keer stab with a narrow blade
kama KAH-ma belt-spat
kaminii kah-MEE-nee Kaminoan
kando KAHN-do importance, weight
kandosii kahn-DOH-see indomitable, ruthless
Kandosii!"" Kan-DOH-see Nice one! Wicked! Well done!""
kandosii`la kan-doh-SEE-la stunning, amazing
Ka`ra KAY-rah stars - ancient Mandalorian myth - ruling council of fallen kings
kar`am KAR-aam breath

karbakar KAR-bah-kar hyperdrive (lit: star to star)
kar`rta kah-ROH-ta heart
kar`taylir kar-TIE-leer know, hold in the heart
kar`taylir darasuum kat-tay-LEER da-RAH-soom love
K`atini! kah-TEEN-ee Suck it up! Or: It`s only pain!
kaysh kaysh he, him, his
kaysh kaysh her, hers
Kaysh mirsh solus Kaysh meersh SOH-loos He`s an idiot (lit. his brain cell is lonely)
Kaysh mirsh`kyramud Kaysh meersh kee-RAH-mood He`s boring me senseless (Lit: he`s a brain assassin)
Kaysh shu`shuk Kaish shoo-SHOOK He`s a disaster
Kaysh tayl`ud Kaysh TAY-lood He`s taking a break. He`s having a nap.
Ke narir haar`ke`gyce rol`eta resol! KEH-nah-REER-ha-ke-GHEE-shay rol-LAYtah
ray-SOL
Execute Order 66!
ke, k` keh imperative prefix - used as order
kebbur KEH-boor try, attempt
kebiin kay-BEEN blue
kebii`tra keh-BEE-trah sky (daytime) lit. blue sky
kebise keh-BEE-say things, stuff
kedin ked-EEN chain of command
keenir KEEN-eer infiltrate
ke`gyce keh-GHEE-shay order, command
keldab kel-DAHB citadel, stronghold
kemir KEH--meer walk
Ke`mot! Keh-MOHT Halt!
Ke`serim! KEH-se-REEM! Take aim!
Ke`sush! Keh-SOOSH! Attention!
kih kee small
Kih`parjai Kee-PAR-jai No problem. Don`t mention it. (Lit: small victory)
kir`manir keer-MAHN-eer adopt, give a soul to someone
kisol kee-SOHL few
K`olar! koh-LAR Come here! Get over here at once!
kom`rk KOHM-or-rohk gauntlet
koor koor deal, contract
kot kohd, koht strength
kote KOH-day, KOH-tay glory (pl)
Kote lo`shebs`ul narit koh-TAY low SHEBS-ool NAH-rit You can keep your glory. (Contemptuous and impolite.)
kotir KOH-teer defeat, overpower
kotyc koh-TEESH strong
kovid KOV-eed head
kov`nynir KOHV-nee-neer head-butt (see also Keldabe Kiss)
K`oyacyi! Koy-AH-shee! Cheers!

kurshi KOOR-shi tree
kute koo-Tay underwear, bodysuit, something worn under armor
K`uur! Koor Hush!
kyr KEER end
Kyr ge`kaan KEER geh-KAHN Endex (end of exercise - mil.)
kyr`ad KEER-ahd corpse
kyr`am kee-RAHM death
kyramla keer-AHM-la fatal, deadly
kyramud keer-AH-mood killer, assassin
kyr`amur kee-RAHM-oor kill
kyrbej KEER-bayj battlefield
kyr`bes KEER-bez skull, especially mythosaur skull - coll. Crown
kyr`vhetine KEER-fet-EEN-ay harvest
kyr`yc KEER-eesh last
laam lahm up
laandur LAHN-doo-er delicate, fragile (sometimes an insult - weak, pathetic)
laar lar song
laaran lah-RAHN singing
laararir lah-RAH-eer sing
la`mun lah-MOON azimuth
lararyc lah-rah-eesh drunk (lit. carousing)
lenedat leh-NAY-daht target, contact
linibar lee-NEE-bar need, to
liser LEE-say able to, can
lo loh into
lonar LOH`nar insertion
loras lor-AHS meat, flesh, substance (poetic)
lor`vram lohr-ve-RAHM breakfast
lovik LOH-veek knee
luubid loo-BEED enough
maan mahn original, first
majyc MAH-jeesh extra
majyce mah-jEE-shay something extra, addendum
majycir MAH-jeesh-eer add
manda MAHN-dah the collective soul or heaven - the state of being Mandalorian in
mind, body and spirit - also supreme, overarching, guardian-like
Mand`alor MAHN-dah-lor sole ruler
Mando MAHN-do Mandalorian, adj or noun
Mando`ad draar digu Man-DOH-ad drahr dee-GOO A Mandalorian never forgets.
Mando`ade Mando-AH-day Mandalorians (pl) - sonsand/ or daughters of Mandalore

Mar`e! MAH-ray! At last! (Expression of relief.)
marekar mah-RAY-kar navigation
marev MAH-rev fist
mar`eyce mah-RAY-shay discovery, something found at last, a state of heaven
mar`eyir mah-AY-eer find, discover
mashukir MAH-shook-eer disperse
mav mahv free
Me`bana? may-BAHN-ah What`s happening? What happened?
Me`copaani? Meh ko-PAH-nee? What do you want? What would you like?
me`dinurir med-IN-oo-reer share, give to each other
meg mayg which, what, that, who
megin may-GIN which, what, that - before a vowel
meh mey if
me`sen mAY-sen starship
mesh`la MAYSH`lah beautiful
me`suum may-SOOM planet
me`suum`ika meh-soo-MEE-ka moon
mhi mee we
Mhor mor ours - rare archaic
miit meet word
miit`gaanar MEET-gah-nar write
mircin mur-SIN cage
mircir mur-SEER cage, lock up, capture
mirci`t mur-SEET prisoner
mirdala MEER-dah-lah clever, intelligent, intellectual
mirdir MEER-deer think, calculate
mirshe MEER-shay brain (plural - mirsh is a brain cell
mirshepar`la MEER-shay-PAR-lah boring (lit: brain devouring)
mirshir MEER-sheer shock, stun (lit. ""brain"" someone, knock out their brain)
mirsh`kyramud MEERSH-keer`AH-mood boring person (lit: brain assassin)
mirshmure`cya meersh-moor-AY-shah Keldabe kiss - slang for headbutt (lit. brain-kiss)
morut moh-ROOT haven, stronghold
morut`yc moh-ROO-teesh safe, secure
motir moh-TEER stand
munad MOO-nahd elevation
munad moo-NAHD height
muninar moo-NEE-nar tall
munit MOON-eet long
murcyur MOOR-shoor kiss (verb)
mureyca MOOR-aysh-ah kiss
muun UM-ahn hard

muun`bajir MOO-wun BAH-jeer trounce, teach someone a lesson, ""kick butt"" lit: educate hard
naak nahk peace
naakla NAHK-lah peaceful
naas nahs nothing
naasad NAHS-ahd none, not any
naasade nah-SAH-day nobody
naastar NAH-star destroy
nad`aai NAHD-ai infrared
nad`aaila. nad-AY-lah infrared (adj)
nadala nad-AHL-ah hot
nakar`mir Nah-kah-MEER be unaware, not know (verb)
nakar`tuur NAH-kah-TOOR tomorrow (lit: the unknown day)
Nar dralshy`a NAR-drahl-SHEE-ya Put your back into it! Try harder!
nari NAH-ree move, action, act
narir nah-REER act, do
naritir nah-ree-TEER insert, place, put
naumiit now-MEET signal
nau`ul now-OOL candlelight
nau`ur now-OOR light up, illuminate
nau`ur kad now-OOR kad forge (lit. light up a saber)
nayc naysh no ( negative answer)
nehutyc neh-HOOT-eesh feisty, gutsy
Ne`johaa! Neh-JOH-hah Shut up!
ne`kaan neh-KAHN non-combatant
N`epar nu pirur! Neh-PAHR noo PEER-oor It won`t eat or drink anything. (It can wait - no rush.)
N`eparavu takisit Nay-PAH-rav-OO ta-KEE-sit sorry (lit: I eat my insult)
ner nair my, mine
ne`tra NAY-trah black
neverd neh-VAIRD civilian
ne`waadas nay-WAHD-ahs poverty, need
ni nee I, me
Ni ceta nee SET-ah sorry (lit: I kneel) grovelling apology - rare
Ni copaani buy`ce gal Nee ko-PAH-nee gal I’d like a pint of ale
Ni copaani buyc`ika cin papuur`gal Nee ko-PAH-nee boo-SHEE-ka seen pah-
POOR=gal
I’d like a glass of white wine, please
ni dinu NEE DEE-noo I give
Ni hukaatii`ni shebs ti kama! NEE-hoo-kah-TEE-ni shebs ti KA-mah I`m covering my back!
Ni kyr`tayl gai sa`ad Nee-keer-TAIL guy-sah-ADD adoption vow - lit. I know your name as my child.

Ni su`cuyi, gar kyr`adyc, ni partayli, gar
darasuum
Nee soo-COO-yee, gar keer-AH-deesh,
nee par-TIE-lee, gar dah-rah-SOOM
Daily remembrance of those passed on ""I`m still alive, but you are
dead. I remember you, so you are eternal."" Followed by repetition
of loved ones` names.
Ni`duraa! NEE DOO-rah You disgust me!
norac noh-RAK back
nu, n`, ne noo negative prefixes
nuh`la, nuhunla NOO-lah funny, amusing
nuhoy noo-HOY sleep
nuhoyir noo-HOY-eer slumber, sleep
nuhun noo-HOON joke
nuhunar noo-HOO-nar laugh
nuhur NOO-hoor good times, laughter, fun
nushaad`la noo-SHAHD-lah motionless
nynir nee-NEER hit, strike
ogir OH-gir there
ogir`olar oh-GEER-oh-LAH one way or the other, either way
olan OH-lahn hundred
olar OH-lar here
olaror oh-LAR-ohr come, arrive
ol`averde oh-lah-VAIR-day company
o`r ohr in
orar or-AHR thunder
or`dinii Ohr-DEE-nee moron, fool
orhaar OR-haar scan (noun)
orhaarir or-HAR-eer scan (verb)
ori OH-ree big, extreme, very
oribru oh-REE-bru emergency
Ori`buyce, kih`kovid. OH-ree-BOO-shay, KEE-koh-VEED All helmet, no head. Common term of derision for someone with an
overdeveloped sense of authority
ori`dush OHR-ee-DOOSH evil
or`ilor ohr-EE-lohr midday meal
ori`shya ohr-EE-she-ya more than
ori`tsad OHR-eet-sahd brigade
oritsir oh-REET-seer curse, swear, bellow
oriya oh-REE-yah city
oriyala oh-REE-ah-lah urban
or`parguur OR-par-GOOR hate
or`trikar OHR-tree-kar grief
osik OH-sik dung (impolite)
osik`la oh-SIK-lah messed up, screwed, horrible (impolite)
Osi`kyr! OH-see-KEER Strong exclamation of surprise or dismay

osi`yaim OH-see-yaim Useless, despicable person
Oya manda! OY-ah-MAN-dah Expression of Mandalorian solidarity and perpetuity: emotional and
assertive.
Oya! OY-ah! Many meanings: literally "Let`s hunt!" and also "Stay alive!", but also
"Hoorah!", "Go you!", "Cheers!" Always positive and triumphant.
oyacyir oy-YAH-sheer live
oya`karir OY-yah-KAR-eer hunt, chase
oyu`baat oy-YOO-baht universe
oyula oy-OO-lah galactic
paguur PAH-goor dislike
pakod PAH-kohd easy, simple
palon pah-LOHN hole
papurgaat pa-POOR-gaht fruit
papuur`gal pah-POOR-gahl wine
par pahr for
Pare! (Pare sol!) PAH-ray (PAH-ray-SOHL Hang on! (Pare sol - lit: "Wait one.") Note: Ke`pare is much more
emphatic - "Wait!"
parer PAH-rair wait
parjai par-JAI victory
parjii PAR-jee winner, victor
par`jila par-JEE-lah triumphant
parjir par-JEER win, be victorious
partaylir par-TAT-leer remember
paru PAH-roo formation
payt PAH-eet left
pehir peh- HEER spit
pel pail soft, yielding
pel`gam pel-GAM skin
peti`baar peh-TEE-bahr center mass
petir pet-EER center
pirebu peer-AY-boo near
pirimmuy peer-im-OO-ee useful
pirun PEER-un water
pirur peer-OOR drink
pirusti peer-OO-stee well
pitat pit-AHT rain
projor PROH-jor next
prudii proo-DEE shadow
prudiise proo-DEE-see shadows
puut`la POOT-lah ballistic

ra rah or
racin ray-SEEN pale
ramaanar rah-mahn-ARR die
ram`ika rah-MEE-kah raid
ram`or RAHM-ohr attack, beseige
ramorla rah-MOR-lah besieged
ram`ser RAM-sair sniper, marksman
rang rahng ash
Rangir! RAN-geer To hell with it!
ranov`la rah-NOHV-lah secret
rayshe`a ray-SHEE-ah five
raysh`olan RAYSH-oh-lahn five hundred
ray`ture ray-TOOR-ay week
rejorhaa`ir ree-JOR-har-EER tell
resol reh-SOL six
Resol`nare RAY-sol NAH-ray Six Actions, the tenets of Mando life
ret rayt Perhaps, maybe
Ret`! Rayt! Bye! See you!
Re`turcye mhi ray-TOOR-shay-MEE Goodbye - lit. ""Maybe we`ll meet again""
ret`yc RET-eesh possible
riduur REE-door partner, spouse, husband, wife
riduurok ree-DOO-rok love, specifically between husband and wife
riye REE-yay favor, benefit, good turn
rohak RO-hahk defeat
rohakar ro-ha-KAR defeat verb
rol`eta ROHL-ay-tah sixty
ru, r` roo past tense prefix
rud rood around
runi roo-NEE soul (poetic only)
rusur roo-SOOR land, ships or troops
ruug roog old age
ruug`la ROOG-lah old
ruus roos rock
ruusaan roo-SAHN reliable one (popular female name)
ruusaanyc roo-SAHN-eesh reliable, trustworthy
ruusaar ROO-sahr foundation
ruus`alor ROOS-ahl-or sergeant
sa sah as, like (comparative)
sal sahl color
sapanyc sah-PAHN-eesh electromagnetic
sarad SAH-rad flower, bloom

saviin sah-VEEN violet
senaar sen-ARR bird
sen`tra SEN-tra jetpack
serim SAIR-eem accurate, correct
serimir SAIR-ee-meer be right, to be accurate
sha sha at (before vowel - shal)
shaadlar SHAHD`lar move
shaap shahp wood
shaap`yc sha-PEESH wooden
shabiir sha-BEER screw up - impolite
shabla SHAH-bla screwed up - impolite
shal shahl at (before vowel)
sheber SHEH-bair sit (verb)
shebs shebs backside, rear (of bulding etc)
she`cu SHAY-koo nine
she`eta shayta fifty
she`eta`olan SHAYTA-oh-lahn five thousand
sh`ehn shayn eight
shehn`eta shayn-EH-tah eighty
shekemir SHEH-kay-meer follow
shek`eta SHAYK-ay-tah ninety
shereshir shair-AYSH-eer kidnap, seize
shev`la SHAYV-lah silent
shi shee just, only
shig sheeg beverage - any infusion of whatever`s available, but usually a mildly
stimulant herb with a citrus flavor called behot
shiib sheeb thin
shi`yayc shee-YAYSH yellow
sho`cye SHOW-shay ocean
shuk shook rift, tear
shuk`la SHOOK-lah broken
shuk`la gett`se SHOOK-lah GETT-say crushed or ground nuts (topping or ingredient for uj)
shuk`la riduurok SOOK-lah ree-DOOR-ok divorce
shuk`orok shoo-KOH-rok crushgaunt
shukur SHOO-koor break
shupur SHOO-par injury
shupur`yc shoo-POOR-esh injured
shupuur shoo-POOR injure
shushai shoo-SHAI sensor (lit. eye-listening)
shu`shuk shoo-SHOOK disaster, big screw-up etc
simir see-MEER year

sim`olan seem-oh-LAHN century
siver SEE-vair degree
skira SKEE-rah settling scores, revenge. feud (different to vengeance - more
personal)
skotah SKOH-tah short
slaat slaht mud
slanar SLAH-nar go
solegot SOH-lay-goot computer (lit. counting machine)
soletar so-LAY-tahr count
solus SOH-loos individual
solus SOH-loos alone, vulnerable
solus SOH-loos united, as one
solus SOH-loos each, one
sol`yc sohl-EESH first
sol`yc sol-EESH first (ordinal)
sosol ti so-SOHL tee equal with
spirba SPEER-bah pass (as in break in terrain)
staabi STAH-bee right
striil streel strill - highly intelligent six-legged hunting carnivore, capable of
gliding and flight
striilir STREE-leer track, trail
su SOO still, yet
Su cuy`gar Soo COO-ee-gar Hello - lit. ""You`re still alive.""
Su`cuy Soo-COO-ee Hi!
sur`ar soo-RAR concentrate, focus
sur`gaan soor-GAHN picture
sur`haai soor-HAI eye
sur`ulur SOOR-oo-LOOR keep an eye on, monitor
sushir SOO-sheer listen
suum soom beyond
Suum ca`nara Soom CAH-na-RAH the state of blissful rest and peace
suvarir soo-VAHR-eer understand
taab tahb foot
taab`echaaj`la TAHB-eh-CHAHJ-lah deceased, passed on (lit: marched far away)
taabir TAH-beer march
taakur TAHR-koor bone
taap tahp location
taap tahp point, position
ta`ayl tah-AYL jailer
tabalhar tah-BAHL-har patrol (verb)
tabalut tah-BAHL-oot patrol (noun) - on patrol: bat`balut (adj)

t`ad tahd two
tad`eta TAHD-ay-tah seventy
takisir TAH-kees-eer insult (verb)
takisit tah-KEE-sit insult (noun)
tal tahl blood
tal`din tal-DEEN bloodline
tal`galar tal-GAL-ahr spill blood, bleed
Talyc Tahl-EESH Bloody, bloodstained - of steak, rare.
ta`raysh ta-RAYSH ten
ta`raysh solus TAH-raysh-SO-lus eleven
ta`raysholan TAH-raysh-oh-lahn thousand
tatugir tah-TOO-geer repeat
tayat TAI-aht storage
tay`haai TAY-hai archivist, reporter
taylir TIE-leer hold, keep, preserve
te teh the (rarely used)
tebec THE-bek ammunition
tegaanalir teh-GAHN-ah-leer rescue
teh tay from
teroch tay-ROCH pitiless
tettar TET-ar kick
ti tee with
tihaar TEE-har alcoholic drink - strong clear spirit made from fruit, like eau de vie
tiin`la teen-LAH coarse
tion TEE-on interrogative prefix, used for a question
Tion`ad tee-on-AD who? (Lit: what person?)
Tion`ad hukaat`kama? Tee-ON-ahd HOO-kaht-KA-ma Who`s watching your back?
tionas tee-OH-nahs Question, puzzle
Tion`cuy? Tee-ON-coo-EE Who`s that? (often used as a challenge to identify someone - like
""Halt! Who goes there?""
tionir tee-OHN-eer question, interrogate
tion`meh tee-ON-may what if?
Tion`solet? Tee-ON-soh-LAYT How many? How much?
to toh join, connection
tok`kad toh-KAHD retreat
to`kursh toh-KOORSH orchard
tolase toh-LAH-say system (lit. joined things)
tom tohm alliance
tomad toh_MAHD ally
tome TOH-may together (plural)

tome`tayl TOH-meh-TAYL memory
tom`urcir tohm-OOR-seer converge
tomyc TOH-meesh joint
tom`yc TPH-meesh allied
tor tohr justice
tra trah space, void
tra trah star field
traat`aliit TRAHT-ah-LEET squad, team
Traat`allit gar besbe`trayc Traht-ah-LEET bes-beh-TRAYSH The squad is your weapon
traatika tra-TEE-kah platoon
tracinya trah-SHEE-nah flame
tracyaat tra-SHEE-at artillery
Tra`cyar mav tra-SHEE-ar-mahv fire at will
tracyn trah-SHEEN fire
tracy`uur trah-SHOOR blaster
tranyc TRAH-neesh sunny (lit. star-burned)
trat`aab traht-AHB infantry
trat`ade traht-AH-day forces
trattok`or TRAT-oh-kor fail, fall, collapse
tratur TRAH-toor man, staff, form the strength of, represent
trikar TREE-kar sadness
trikar`la tree-KAHR sad
troan trawn face
troch troch certainly (archaic, like verily)
tsad sahd alliance, group
Tsad Droten tsahd-DROH-ten senate, assembly
tsad droten ZAD DROH-ten group of people, Republic
tug`yc too-GEESH again
tuur toor day
udes OO-des rest, leisure
Udesii! oo-DAY-see Calm down! Take it easy!
udesiir oo-DAY-seer relax, take it easy, calm down, find respite
uj`alayi oo-jah-LIE-ee uj cake - dense, very sweet flat cake made of ground nuts, syrup,
pureed dried fruit and spice
uj`jayl oo-JAY-ul thick scented syrup used in cooking
ukoror oo-KOR-or push
ulik OO-leek mount, pack animal,
ulur OO-loor detect
ulur OOL-oor care, take notice of
umaan UM-ahn difficult
urcir oor-SEER meet

ures oo-REES without, lacking
urmankalar oor-MAHN-kah-lar believe (distinct from knowing)
Usen`ye! oo-SEN-yay Go away! (Very rude - from same root as osik)
utreekov oo-TREE-kov fool, idiot (lit. emptyhead)
ut`reeyah oot-REE-yah empty
utrel`a oo-TREy-lah clear (as in "All clear")
utreyar oo-TREE-yar clear (verb)
utyc OO-teesh slimy
uur oor silence
uvete oo-VAY-tay worlds (poetic)
vaabir VAH-beer do
vaal vahl during, while
vaar vahr early, undeveloped, half-grown
vaar`tur vahr-TOOR morning
vaii vay where
vaii`la vai-EE-lah directional
val vahl they, theirs
veeray VEER-ay area
veman veh-MAHN real, genuine
ven vehn future tense prefix
vencuyot vain-COO-ee-ot future
ver`alor VAIR-ah-LOR lieutenant
verborir VAIR-bor-EER hire, buy, contract
vercopa vair-KOH-pa wish, dream
Vercopa… vair-KOH-pa May this happen, I wish… prefixes statement
vercopaanir VAIR-koh-PAH-neer wish, to hope
verd vaird soldier, warrior
verda VAIR-dah warriors (archaic plural)
verde VAIR-day soldiers
verd`ika vair-DEE-kah private (rank)
verd`yc VAIR-deesh aggressive (not necessarily negative!)
ver`gebuir vair-geh-boo-EER bodyguard lit: hired guardian (almost-father)
ver`mircit VAIR-meer-seet hostage
ver`verd vair-VAIRD mercenary
ve`vut vay-VOOT gold
vheh feh earth, dust, soil
vheh`yaim veh-YAYM temporary hut made of wattle and daub, a "basha"
vhekaj VEH-kahj map
vhetin vet-EEN plain, fields
vhett fet farmer
vhey vay mine (ordnance)

vhipir fee-PEER mist
vi vee we (rare - archaic)
videk vee-DEK neck
viinir VEEN-eer run
vod vohd comrade, "mate"
vod vohd brother
vod vohd sister
Vor entye vor-ENT-yay Thank you (lit. "I accept a debt")
Vor`e! VOHR-ay Thanks!
vorer VAW-rehr accept
vorpan VOR-pahn green
vorpan`oy vor-PAHN`oy vegetation
vurel VOO-rayl ever
vu`traat VOO-traht special forces
vutyc VOOT-eesh special
waadas WAH-daas credits, wealth
waadasla wah-DAHS-lah valuable
warra`se WAR-ah-say warra nuts
wasuur WAH-soor west
Wayii! why-ee Good grief! General exclamation of surprise, good or bad.
wer wair eon (archaic)
Wer`cuy Wair-COO-ee It was ages ago."" - colloquial, often used as ""Forget it"" or ""It
doesn`t matter""
werda WAIR-dah darkness - archaic plural - dha werda - dark light, shadows -i.e.
stealth
werde WAIR-day darkness
werlaara wer-LAR-ah myth (archaic)
woor wooer wind
yacur YAH-soor flush out
yai yay belly, womb
yaihadla yai-HAHD-lah pregnant
yaihi`l YAH-heel full
yaim yaym home
yaim`la YAYM`la comfortable, familiar, sense of ""at home""
yaim`la YAYM`la local
yaim`ol yai-MOHL return, homecoming
yaimpar yay-EEM-par return
yaiyai`yc yai-YAI-eesh bloated, satisfied
yilad yee-LAHD array (noun)
yust`arud YOOST-arood perimeter

NUMBERS
1 solus
2 t`ad
3 ehn
4 cuir
5 rayshe`a
6 resol
7 e`tad
8 sh`ehn
9 she`cu
10 ta`raysh
20 ad`eta
30 ehn`eta
40 cur`eta
50 she`eta
60 rol`eta
70 tad`eta
80 shehn`eta
90 shek`eta
100 olan
500 reysh`olan
1000 ta`raysholan
5000 she`eta`olan

MANDO’A QUICK GRAMMAR GUIDE
The language is a very regular. It has no cases; only two forms of the verb
and a tense prefix system; and simple rules for creating adjectives out of
nouns and verb stems. Spelling and punctuation have optional forms so it’s
hard to be completely ungrammatical.
Word order indicates meaning, as in English.
VERBS
The infinitive ends in -ir, -ar, -ur, -or or -er. Removing the “r” usually produces
the stem.
Sometimes an apostrophe separates the terminal vowel, to indicate the s light
glottal stop of some Mandalorian accents. This apostrophe, known as a beten,
or sigh – as in Mando’a – can also indicate breathing, pronunciation, or
dropped letters.
Mando’a is predominantly a spoken language, and contractions and
pronunciation variations occur just as in any language.
The verb cuyir (to be) is frequently dropped and indicated by word order, as in
ni (cuyi) verd – I (am) a warrior.
To say “It’s good”, a Mandalorian will often just say jate (good) rather than bic
jate – it (is) good - or the full form with the verb, bic cuyi jate.
The addition of the prefix tion turns a statement into a question.
The prefix ke or k` indicates a command. Using ke with the infinitive is
formal, but in everyday colloquial use the verb loses its -r ending.
To create the negative form of a verb – or, in many cases, a noun – add
the prefix n’, nu, nu’, or even ne (depending on ease of pronunciation) before
either the whole sentence or the negative phrase, depending on meaning.
Pronunciation is always a key factor in determining which letters are dropped
when spoken. The negative prefix often denotes a negative noun, such as
ne’briikase (unhappy).
A summary of the verb forms, using jurir:
Ni juri kad: I carry a saber.
Nu’ni juri kad: I don’t carry a saber.
Ni ven juri kad: I will carry a saber.
Ni ru juri kad: I carried a saber.
Ke jurir kad: Carry that saber! (Formal.)
Ke’nu jurir kad: Put that saber down! (Literally, “Don’t carry that saber!”

NOUNS
Gender nouns are the same for men and women. Gender is implied
contextually, if relevant. Where gender clarity is necessary, the adjectives
jagyc (male) or dalyc (female) are added.
There is no need to make verbs agree with subjects – there is one form only.
A prefix system indicates tenses. Colloquially, Mandalorians use only the
present tense, but they adopted the prefixes ru (past) and ven (future) when
dealing with species who need specific tenses.
There is no passive form. All verbs are active. If needed, the passive is
formed by using the adjective and – if spoken in full – the verb cuyir.
The indefinite article eyn, (an) is almost always dropped except for emphasis,
as is the definite article te, or the more emphatic haar (the).
Plurals are formed by adding –e. The “e” is always pronounced as "ay".
PRONOUNS
As with nouns, pronouns have no gender. Some are also possessives, such
as gar, kaysh and val.
ADJECTIVES AND ADVERBS:
Adjectives and adverbs are formed by the addition of the suffix -la or -yc
(pronounced eesh), depending on which makes pronunciation easier. There is
only one form of the adjective.
The adverb is exactly the same as the adjective.
Comparatives and superlatives tend to be constructed from adjectives with -
shy’a for the comparative or -ne for the superlative.
PRONUNCIATION
Mando’a is pronounced much as Basic, with a few exceptions. There is no “f,”
“x,” or “z,” although some regions do pronounce “p” almost as ph and “s” as z.
Those letters have been added to the Mandalorian written alphabet to aid the
transliteration of foreign words. Occasionally, the pronunciation of “t”s and
“d”s are swapped. “T” is the modern form; “d” is archaic. “V” and “w” are also
sometimes interchangeable, as are “b” and “v” – another regional variation. “J”
is now pronounced as a hard “ j” as in joy, but is still heard as “y” in some
communities.
The initial “h” in a word is usually aspirated, except in its archaic form in some
songs and poems, and “h” is always pronounced when it occurs in the middle
of a word.

The stress on syllables shown in the lexicon is as commonly spoken, but
many Mandalorians place stress on different syllables.
Other points to note:
-uy: pronounced oo-ee
u: oo
cye: shay
-yc: sh after a vowel
c: k, when it comes before a at the beginning
of a word
c: s, when it comes before other vowels at the
beginning of a word or in the middle of a word
cy: sh or ch
Pronouncing terminal consonants varies in songs. They often become extra
syllables. For examples, tor becomes to-rah and tang becomes tan-gah to
maintain rhythm and meter.

Moze za jakiś czas doczekamy się też na forum działu w języku Mando`a, wszystko zależy od was.

Oya!

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  • Ciekawe...

    Wedge 2006-02-17 16:57:00

    Wedge

    avek

    Rejestracja: 2005-01-07

    Ostatnia wizyta: 2019-05-26

    Skąd: Wrocław/Psary

    ale kompletny chaos Strasznie to nieuporządkowane, w ogóle nie można się połapać co jest czym. I przydałyby się proste zasady gramatyczne... Póki co nawet tego nie czytam, zbytni bajzel panuje w tym niby-słowniku
    Ale pomysł jest fajny i ciekawy

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  • Tyle

    Komandor Eire 2006-02-17 17:15:00

    Komandor Eire

    avek

    Rejestracja: 2005-08-08

    Ostatnia wizyta: 2013-05-05

    Skąd: Ze wsi

    że Tolkien przynajmniej część języka opierał na rzadkim, ale istniejacym dialekcie. Przy wymyślaniu jezykóz całkiem z glowy zbyt często powstaje kołomyja.

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    • Tolkienowskie jezyki

      Jeth 2006-02-17 20:18:00

      Jeth

      avek

      Rejestracja: 2001-09-20

      Ostatnia wizyta: 2015-03-26

      Skąd: Tczew

      Tolkien wiekszosc jezykow, z lekkimi przerobkami zwyczajnie sciagal z polnocy. Jezyki dawnej Karelii+Finlandii, Mercji i Walii - Quenya, Eothrik, Sindarin. Mowe orkow mocno przypomina storo-nordycki, itd.. itp.
      Ciekawie podszedl Sapkowski, laczac niemiecki z walijskim i jezykami nordyckimi.
      Stworzenie calego jezyka to trudna sztuka, warto zauwazyc, ze i jeden i drugi pan znali/ja wiecej niz 5 jezykow. Widza wiec pewne reguly, systematyke, ich jezyki nie opieraja sie na laczeniu glosek twardych i miekkich. Tu widac te niedoskonalosci. Zauwazmy, ze kazde slowo zaczyna sie od dwoch liter, z ktorych jedna jest spolgloaska a druga samogloska. Autorka wyraznie bala sie pokusic o cos wiecej, brak doswiadczenia wychodzi. Miejmy nadzieje, ze to rowzwinie.

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  • nieżle brzmi,

    Hego Damask 2006-02-17 17:52:00

    Hego Damask

    avek

    Rejestracja: 2005-05-28

    Ostatnia wizyta: 2025-09-13

    Skąd: Wrocław

    nieźle , zwłaszcza wprowadzenie do ROTSa . Pieśni z Republic Commando też są bardzo dobre (ale to już na stronie gry można ściągnąć i posłuchać ) .

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  • Języki Star Wars

    Strid 2006-02-17 18:11:00

    Strid

    avek

    Rejestracja: 2003-06-28

    Ostatnia wizyta: 2025-09-13

    Skąd: Poznań

    Za coś podobnego już się kiedyś brał Ben Burtt a i tworzenie języka Mandalorian zostało już rozpoczete za sprawą Republic Commando do którego na potrzebe pieśni stworzono podwaliny pod jezyk mandaloriański.
    A że Karen Traviss zamiast wziąć sie za Legacy rozwija kulture Mandalorian to się jej tylko chwali Poza tym do Legacy to sie przyda bo w końcu zamierza umieścić Mandalorian w swoich ksiązkach jako jeden z wazniejszych watków.

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    • cóż,

      ulien 2006-02-17 18:16:00

      ulien

      avek

      Rejestracja: 2005-09-14

      Ostatnia wizyta: 2014-04-14

      Skąd: Warszawa

      fajnie, że juz mandaloriański jakoś rozpracowany... Zresztą w ogóle, jakoś się ostatnoi językami w SW zajęto... Może nie było o czym innych książek pisać Teraz tylko czekam na język Massassi

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    • jest

      Lord Sidious 2006-02-20 18:19:00

      Lord Sidious

      avek

      Rejestracja: 2001-09-05

      Ostatnia wizyta: 2025-09-14

      Skąd: Wrocław

      jedna mała kwestia jeśli chodzi o Burtta. On cały czas robił to w inny sposób, raczej tworzył słowa i wyrażenia, a nie budował język. Traviss, zrobiła to z drugiej strony - od zarysów kultury Mandalorian - to właśnie u niej pojawiają się Mandaloriańskie Szanty Wojenne - tak te pieśni nazwała a w konsekwencji doprowadzanie do powstania reguł opisujących wymowę, konstrukcję gramatyczną zdań i dopiero w ostatecznym rozrachunku dodawanie słów do tego języka. Ani Burtt, ani nikt na planie klasycznej trylogii nawet nie próbował podjąć próby kroczenia tą drogą. Jej się to udało.

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  • jezyki w SW

    Jeth 2006-02-17 19:43:00

    Jeth

    avek

    Rejestracja: 2001-09-20

    Ostatnia wizyta: 2015-03-26

    Skąd: Tczew

    Kreaowanie swiata przez Tolkiena i Lucasa jest zupelnie inne. Lucas skupil sie na tworzeniu sagi, jednej epickiej opowiesci. Tolkien zas w domowym zaciuszu tworzyl album o srodziemiu. Opisal doslownie wszystko, botanike, mity, zwyczaje itd.. Sam twierdzil, ze nie wymyslil srodziemia, a je odkryl. Lucasa EU nie interesuje, dal temu wyraz niejednokrotnie. Fajna inicjatywa, szanuje, ale jak ona ma sie do swiata SW? Przydalaby sie gramatyka, jakis mandalorianski utwor w tym jezyku. Poki co sa to puste slowa, ktore moze stworzyc kazdy.

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    • z tego

      Lord Sidious 2006-02-25 22:55:00

      Lord Sidious

      avek

      Rejestracja: 2001-09-05

      Ostatnia wizyta: 2025-09-14

      Skąd: Wrocław

      co pamiętam, to właśnie się od utworów wzieło, od Mandaloriańskich Szant Wojennych. A rozwój języka szedł razem z rozwojem kultury Mandalorian, wiec same puste słowa to to nie są, choć do Tolkiena faktycznie dużo brakuje. Raczej bliżej temu językowi do Esperanto.

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  • Języczki

    Hialv Rabos 2006-02-17 20:21:00

    Hialv Rabos

    avek

    Rejestracja: 2005-10-30

    Ostatnia wizyta: 2025-07-15

    Skąd:

    Dobra to inincjatywa. Podeprę się jednak słowami, które wypowiedział W. Antilles, że póki co jest to istna kołomyja. Sam interesuję się tworzeniem nazw i jak dla mnie w tym mandaloriańskim za dużo jest dwu członowców, przedzielonych apostrofem. Ale jak rozumiem to specyfika tego języka. Przypomina mi trochę starożytny język Sithów , znany mi z komikisów opowiadających przygody niejakiego rodzeństwa Daragonów .

    Oczywiście to podobieństwo jest moim subiektywnym odczuciem, jak na pierwszy żut oka Ogólnie jednak należy pochwalić pomysł K. Traviss.

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  • Starwarsowiacy nie gęsi

    Sir Mavins 2006-02-17 20:38:00

    Sir Mavins

    avek

    Rejestracja: 2004-07-24

    Ostatnia wizyta: 2007-10-10

    Skąd:

    i swój język mają.
    Tylko wiedzcie, że Gl tworząc inne języki w SW umiał ANGIELSKI.
    Gotta to got, w różnej formie, a miszka to niby po rosyjsku mieszka?
    No nie bardzo, bo żywiot = mieszka, to rosyjski.

    Stworzenie języka z istniejącego nie jest trudno stworzyć, ale jest problem, bo po jakims czasie pomysły sie nakładaja i mozemy mieć te same wyazy, co innego znaczące.
    Uważam, ze najprościej jest zrobic z mało znanego języka cos, co potem da nam pewną podstawę.

    Jeśli zaś chodzi o Tolkiena, to w Pl jest chyba 3 ldzików, którzy mówia po elficku.
    I co z tego, skoro nawet fani WP ich nie rozumieją.

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  • No...

    faultfett 2006-02-22 02:06:00

    faultfett

    avek

    Rejestracja: 2003-10-26

    Ostatnia wizyta: 2025-09-12

    Skąd: Ciechanów

    - Jeśli Maker da siły, to na kolejnym CC zapewne zaistnieje możliwość poduczenia się artykuowania pewnych wyrażeń w Mando`a
    .
    Specjalna ekipa ekspertów językowych właśnie rozpoczyna badania lingwistyczne

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  • Trzeba

    Verdan 2006-03-04 09:24:00

    Verdan

    avek

    Rejestracja: 2004-06-17

    Ostatnia wizyta: 2010-12-20

    Skąd:

    przyznać, że język niezły.

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  • Kilka słów o Mando`a

    Lord Sidious 2006-03-25 19:49:00

    Lord Sidious

    avek

    Rejestracja: 2001-09-05

    Ostatnia wizyta: 2025-09-14

    Skąd: Wrocław

    Teraz zwłaszcza po przeczytaniu Triple Zero oraz lekutrze ostatniego Insidera mogę się jeszcze wypowiedzieć w tej sprawie. Po pierwsze większość języka powstała na potrzeby książki Republic Commando: Triple Zero. Ale język tam mimo wszystko jest dodatkiem do kultury mandaloriańskiej, wzbogaca ją i wynika z niej, a nie jest tworem jak esperanto samym w sobie. W słowniku brakuje niektórych słów, jak choćby bohater, bo okazuje się, że u Mandalorian nie ma takiego słowa. Albo jest się Mandalorianiem, albo tchórzem. Ktoś kto zdradzi, stchórzy nie jest godny bycia Wojownikiem. Wśród całej masy różnych rytułałów Traviss wymysliłą także np. tekst ceremonii tradycyjnych mandaloriański ślubów itp. Już sam język spowodował, że szczęka mi opadła, ale powiem jedno, Karen bynajmniej nie poprzestała na języku. Myślę, że całkiem możliwe iz przygotuje na ten temat prelekcję na Dni Fantastyki albo Recon ew. Coolkon 2007 .

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